other areas and some new revenue would not involve any tax increases or major entitlement reforms. none of those big-ticket items. even the smaller deal is proving to be a challenge right now. >> it just seems like every thought that we have had on this set says that we have to have entitlement reform. if those issues are not on the table, what is the point of this? >> the only point is to provide some certainty in the short term. there is a case that we made here, a lot of people are skeptical of. if they can reach the smaller deal in one or two years, maybe that gives a comfort zone or some opportunity to strike a larger deal. they will not cut a grand bargain. certainly with the election coming up, no way they won't mess with entitlements. if that is the case, then a anll deal loan may be option. at least something they could build off of. >> how do you think the tea party will build on this? >> they will not like some things in this. there are some things in here that not everyone likes. there talking about an aviation can -- security fee. that is one issue. it, but ao not like